pkpalta
08-11 05:02 PM
Admin, please remove this post. If INS reads it and amends to verify all the employers then there will be more back logs and more retrogression.
We all know that there are tonne of problems with processing and lots of idiosyncracy but this forum is to solve problems not creating it.
;)
We all know that there are tonne of problems with processing and lots of idiosyncracy but this forum is to solve problems not creating it.
;)
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bluez25
08-26 02:18 PM
also one more thing is that my previous attempt for GC with my previous employer was more that 4.5 years for the labor to be cleared and unfortunately I had problems and quit that employer.
Euclid
03-19 09:43 PM
The firm I work for is also signed up for E-Verify. It's lawyers were cool with the receipt rule. I have also checked this with the international student's office at my grad school. I am absolutely sure this is OK to do.
Remember, that the I-9 receipt rule (and e-verify) is not just for international students. It is also meant for permanent residents and citizens who happen to be waiting for a lost document to be replaced. It is unthinkable that they would be asked to stay at home while the govt agencies mail them their documents.
Your HR is wrong. Find the relevant info on this from the DHS website and fight with them. Remember, unless you plan to work in the HR department, it is probably OK to pick a fight with them. :-)
Remember, that the I-9 receipt rule (and e-verify) is not just for international students. It is also meant for permanent residents and citizens who happen to be waiting for a lost document to be replaced. It is unthinkable that they would be asked to stay at home while the govt agencies mail them their documents.
Your HR is wrong. Find the relevant info on this from the DHS website and fight with them. Remember, unless you plan to work in the HR department, it is probably OK to pick a fight with them. :-)
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digmetalq
08-21 04:27 AM
Democracy gives votes for the citizens. You aren't even close to being one to even speak up. You are still an Alien. If you don't like it, feel free to be a citizen of the country that you are from.
Just because you pay tax, no one is answerable from the government to you, forget an apology. Taxation has got nothing to do with your right to vote. Right to vote is what is important in a democracy so that if the majority of the people don't like what is happening, they can make the change happen by their vote when the time comes.
Apology from USCIS???? For what? USCIS is just an agency. They do not even make the laws. They just process the applications as per the law.
You are right about we are Aliens, you are right that we are not citizens of US and thus have no right to vote. You know why politicians ignore us, they know by the time we get our GC and then our Citizenship we all will be long dead.
Just because you pay tax, no one is answerable from the government to you, forget an apology. Taxation has got nothing to do with your right to vote. Right to vote is what is important in a democracy so that if the majority of the people don't like what is happening, they can make the change happen by their vote when the time comes.
Apology from USCIS???? For what? USCIS is just an agency. They do not even make the laws. They just process the applications as per the law.
You are right about we are Aliens, you are right that we are not citizens of US and thus have no right to vote. You know why politicians ignore us, they know by the time we get our GC and then our Citizenship we all will be long dead.
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Ramba
03-26 11:42 AM
There is a little chance to overcome this issue. Because of promotion in same occupation classification, one can not upgrade the education requirement to Master degree, if the same occupation required Bachelors degree in junior level. If your employer requested more experience (rather than education), probabaly they may approve the second LC, as it is geneune for asking more experience for senor level.
Now DOL and USCIS is tightening the requirement as everyone is shooting for higher requirement to apply in EB2.
Now DOL and USCIS is tightening the requirement as everyone is shooting for higher requirement to apply in EB2.
pitha
01-15 05:43 PM
not to be cynical but what sort of "change" is on the way with CIR, if you are "illegal" sure some good change is on the way, but if you are a legal eb immigrant not sure what is in store for us, it is not necessary to be good with points based nonsense etc.
For sure visa recapture independent of CIR is the best possible outcome.
Anyway lets call lofgren and ask for visa recapture. I have already called and asked, please all of you do the same. It will give her confidence that there is support for it if all of us call.
Don't keep your expectations so low. Change is on the way ! Senate's color has changed. ;)
For sure visa recapture independent of CIR is the best possible outcome.
Anyway lets call lofgren and ask for visa recapture. I have already called and asked, please all of you do the same. It will give her confidence that there is support for it if all of us call.
Don't keep your expectations so low. Change is on the way ! Senate's color has changed. ;)
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GcInLimbo
12-01 12:28 PM
Thank You for your reply. Here are the more specifics of the case in short and understandable manner.
1) My H1B expired in Dec 2006 and an extension was filed in Oct 2006.
2) In February 2007 my company got an RFE on my H1B extension.
3) In Mar/Apr 2007 my company replied to the extension with the requested information
4) In Apr 2007, my case was transferred to Seattle Local office
5) In June 2007, my I-140 got approved
6) I-485 became current in July 2007, and we applied
7) I started working for another employer in August and the H1B was approved in September.
7) In September/October we received receipts for the 485 filing and the EAD/AP applications were approved in October 2007.
8) My new employer didn't apply for her H4 as she had a pending H1 application for Year 2008 ( Starting October 2007) that later was approved without I-94. Her employer filed amendments for missing I-94 and an RFE was issued on her H1B filing requesting more information.
9) We later withdrew the application as she got her EAD approved and I-485 receipt
10) Now I got the Notice of Intent to deny requesting evidence of my legality from Dec 2006 to July 2007.
Since my H1B was pending for this period, doesn't this put me in legal status. I hope this information helps. Please let me know if you have any specific questions to answer my query.
Once again thanks for your input.
1) My H1B expired in Dec 2006 and an extension was filed in Oct 2006.
2) In February 2007 my company got an RFE on my H1B extension.
3) In Mar/Apr 2007 my company replied to the extension with the requested information
4) In Apr 2007, my case was transferred to Seattle Local office
5) In June 2007, my I-140 got approved
6) I-485 became current in July 2007, and we applied
7) I started working for another employer in August and the H1B was approved in September.
7) In September/October we received receipts for the 485 filing and the EAD/AP applications were approved in October 2007.
8) My new employer didn't apply for her H4 as she had a pending H1 application for Year 2008 ( Starting October 2007) that later was approved without I-94. Her employer filed amendments for missing I-94 and an RFE was issued on her H1B filing requesting more information.
9) We later withdrew the application as she got her EAD approved and I-485 receipt
10) Now I got the Notice of Intent to deny requesting evidence of my legality from Dec 2006 to July 2007.
Since my H1B was pending for this period, doesn't this put me in legal status. I hope this information helps. Please let me know if you have any specific questions to answer my query.
Once again thanks for your input.
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belmontboy
06-20 08:30 PM
There is no need to change the date on I-94. As long as you have the I-797 approval petition you are good. When you leave the country, you MUSTgive the I-94 to the airline authorities. If you go to Mexico by road, there is no one to take your I-94 and so you will have illegally left the US - which can lead to problems. If you fly, you are fine!
But still, unless you are going on vacation, do not waste your money.
Wrong!
I-94 is the one that determines how long u can stay.
I-94 can be extended while staying in US.
But still, unless you are going on vacation, do not waste your money.
Wrong!
I-94 is the one that determines how long u can stay.
I-94 can be extended while staying in US.
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needhelp!
02-13 03:20 PM
There's time till evening.. keep 'em coming.
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kumarc123
09-07 02:28 PM
Thanks for sharing this. I find it hard to believe what IO said (not you) . I think IO must have meant it will be current for PD 2003/2004 people. And using unused numbers from past is more of legislative thing that I am not sure if USCIS has the power to do it.
Well I am a optimistic person,
Maybe IO and Uscis knows something which we all don't know. If this happens, it will be all worth it, I hope what IO officer said really happens.
In the meantime, lets focus on what we really need to do in regards to the pending bill
Good luck to everyone
Well I am a optimistic person,
Maybe IO and Uscis knows something which we all don't know. If this happens, it will be all worth it, I hope what IO officer said really happens.
In the meantime, lets focus on what we really need to do in regards to the pending bill
Good luck to everyone
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zephyrr
03-21 12:35 PM
Yes, there is a certain amount of risk depending on the company you work for. If you work for a Fortune 10 which has a 100% track record wit 140s, your risk is mitigated.
I agree that one should probably do it for compelling reasons.
I think relevent part here is Q 1.
Question 1. How should service centers or district offices process unapproved I-140
petitions that were concurrently filed with I-485 applications that have been pending
180 days in relation to the I-140 portability provisions under �106(c) of AC21?
Answer: If it is discovered that a beneficiary has ported off of an unapproved I-140 and I-485 that has
been pending for 180 days or more, the following procedures should be applied:
A. Review the pending I-140 petition to determine if the preponderance of the evidence
establishes that the case is approvable or would have been approvable had it been adjudicated
within 180 days. If the petition is approvable but for an ability to pay issue or any other issue
relating to a time after the filing of the petition, approve the petition on it�s merits. Then
adjudicate the adjustment of status application to determine if the new position is the same or
similar occupational classification for I-140 portability purposes.
B. If a request for additional evidence (RFE) is necessary to resolve a material issue, other than
post-filing issues such as ability to pay, an RFE can be issued to try to resolve the issue. When a
response is received, and if the petition is approvable, follow the procedures in part A above.
Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and H-1B petitions affected
by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
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If that isn't risky.. I think you are all set for that week-end bungy jump from golden gate bridge!
I agree that one should probably do it for compelling reasons.
I think relevent part here is Q 1.
Question 1. How should service centers or district offices process unapproved I-140
petitions that were concurrently filed with I-485 applications that have been pending
180 days in relation to the I-140 portability provisions under �106(c) of AC21?
Answer: If it is discovered that a beneficiary has ported off of an unapproved I-140 and I-485 that has
been pending for 180 days or more, the following procedures should be applied:
A. Review the pending I-140 petition to determine if the preponderance of the evidence
establishes that the case is approvable or would have been approvable had it been adjudicated
within 180 days. If the petition is approvable but for an ability to pay issue or any other issue
relating to a time after the filing of the petition, approve the petition on it�s merits. Then
adjudicate the adjustment of status application to determine if the new position is the same or
similar occupational classification for I-140 portability purposes.
B. If a request for additional evidence (RFE) is necessary to resolve a material issue, other than
post-filing issues such as ability to pay, an RFE can be issued to try to resolve the issue. When a
response is received, and if the petition is approvable, follow the procedures in part A above.
Interim guidance for processing I-140 employment-based immigrant petitions and I-485 and H-1B petitions affected
by the American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act of 2000 (AC21) (Public Law 106-313)
--------------------------
If that isn't risky.. I think you are all set for that week-end bungy jump from golden gate bridge!
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tselva
06-02 06:53 PM
The points for to-do-list after GC by Samswas are great..Just a little comment as I talked to my attorney now...
DON'T throw away, rather keep your I-94, as you never know, until you get citizenship, what documents you may need to show in which circumstances varifying legal status leading to GC... It is just a word of caution not to discard the I-94 but to archive safely, but he is right that we should not give it to airline official....
Best wishes to those who are waiting...
Can anyone please explain why we should not give current I-94 card to airline official (after getting GC) when you go out of the USA ?
DON'T throw away, rather keep your I-94, as you never know, until you get citizenship, what documents you may need to show in which circumstances varifying legal status leading to GC... It is just a word of caution not to discard the I-94 but to archive safely, but he is right that we should not give it to airline official....
Best wishes to those who are waiting...
Can anyone please explain why we should not give current I-94 card to airline official (after getting GC) when you go out of the USA ?
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SEP03NY
08-15 02:57 PM
one of my friend file I485 on 30th July, he got receipt notice. They
have mention received on 2nd July.
have mention received on 2nd July.
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purgan
08-06 09:26 AM
Well a lot of people I know have coverted from EB3 to EB2 while retaining their old PDs, so i'mnot sure about EB2 dates staying in 2004.
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needhelp!
12-31 12:15 PM
This year is going to be a memorable one.
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arpu31
11-13 07:35 PM
I came to USA in March-2009 on H4 visa, I have H4 visa stamp on my passport valid till 2011 which is my husband�s valid H1 date. Then i applied for H1B through one of consulting companies. I got H1B approval in June-2009. I am searching for the project from June-2009 but, don't have project till date. So now i wanted to change my status again from H1B to H4. I believe my H1B is automatically activated on 1st Oct 2009. I still don�t have any paychecks since I did not get the project and haven�t yet applied for SSN.
So my questions are,
1.Can I apply for visa status change from H1B to H4 in USA or
a. I need to go outside USA and reapply for H4 visa in my home country or
b.just go outside USA and enter back with my current H4 on my passport which is valid until 2011?
2. Is there any alternative that I can apply for status change from H1B to H4 immediately in USA to continue my H4 visa again and can get H4 visa stamp in future when I will go outside USA?
3. Do I need to show paystubs from Oct-2009 while applying for H4 COS in USA while filling the form?
4. Is there a 60 day rule during which I need to apply for my SSN? What would happen if I delay applying for my SSN?
5. Under what scenarios and When would I be considered out of status?
Thank You in advance.
Arpu
So my questions are,
1.Can I apply for visa status change from H1B to H4 in USA or
a. I need to go outside USA and reapply for H4 visa in my home country or
b.just go outside USA and enter back with my current H4 on my passport which is valid until 2011?
2. Is there any alternative that I can apply for status change from H1B to H4 immediately in USA to continue my H4 visa again and can get H4 visa stamp in future when I will go outside USA?
3. Do I need to show paystubs from Oct-2009 while applying for H4 COS in USA while filling the form?
4. Is there a 60 day rule during which I need to apply for my SSN? What would happen if I delay applying for my SSN?
5. Under what scenarios and When would I be considered out of status?
Thank You in advance.
Arpu
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snhn
04-13 11:58 AM
Hello,
I am in my 8th year of H1b visa, getting extension on the basis of a pending labor . My visa notice came in today.
My lawyer says this. I-129 Approval notice from Feb 2006-2007. However my approval was
sent to consulate in Islamabad pakisan. Apparentlly my visa was not extended here in US.
I cam to know about it because it says on my I129 application. It basically says that I am
not eligible to extend my stay in the US therefore have to travel outside the country. My
wife petition,, well all she received was a letter from INS stating that her H4 application
can not be renewed because of my petition. I also states on that the H1B petitionore has a
criminal recore which is inadmissible in US. the only criminal record I have is some
traffic violations and a DWI from 2000.
Since my DWI I have been able to extend my H1 3 times in ths country. I have in fact been
able to travel out 2 times. I have never tried to get the visa extension in Pakistan
before. So I am not sure when DWI became a inadmissble offense. I got a h1 extension
approved last year. They never said anything abou that. I hav not been involved in
anything else either.
none of the conversation my lawyer has had with them, it does not specify what the criminal
record they are talkin g about. I have even talke to INS about it and they dont know either.
One other question. Can I still work even thought my visa is not extended per say. INS only
send a approval notice but not extension. The company lawyer stated that he needs to wait until he gets a letter from INS explainin what crminal back ground I have that makes me inadmissble. According to him DWI should not be the reason alone. He also stated that I can work and thet he will file an appeal in regards to this denial. If I goto pakistan, then the background check alone will take few months. If that happens, then I may loose my job here. Per INS I have to leave the country and try for extension there. But since they stated on my wife denial that I am inadmissble, the chances are they are not going to do it. Can I try goingt to Mexico to do this.
What are your thaughts.
Am I illegal right now.
Thanks!
N
I am in my 8th year of H1b visa, getting extension on the basis of a pending labor . My visa notice came in today.
My lawyer says this. I-129 Approval notice from Feb 2006-2007. However my approval was
sent to consulate in Islamabad pakisan. Apparentlly my visa was not extended here in US.
I cam to know about it because it says on my I129 application. It basically says that I am
not eligible to extend my stay in the US therefore have to travel outside the country. My
wife petition,, well all she received was a letter from INS stating that her H4 application
can not be renewed because of my petition. I also states on that the H1B petitionore has a
criminal recore which is inadmissible in US. the only criminal record I have is some
traffic violations and a DWI from 2000.
Since my DWI I have been able to extend my H1 3 times in ths country. I have in fact been
able to travel out 2 times. I have never tried to get the visa extension in Pakistan
before. So I am not sure when DWI became a inadmissble offense. I got a h1 extension
approved last year. They never said anything abou that. I hav not been involved in
anything else either.
none of the conversation my lawyer has had with them, it does not specify what the criminal
record they are talkin g about. I have even talke to INS about it and they dont know either.
One other question. Can I still work even thought my visa is not extended per say. INS only
send a approval notice but not extension. The company lawyer stated that he needs to wait until he gets a letter from INS explainin what crminal back ground I have that makes me inadmissble. According to him DWI should not be the reason alone. He also stated that I can work and thet he will file an appeal in regards to this denial. If I goto pakistan, then the background check alone will take few months. If that happens, then I may loose my job here. Per INS I have to leave the country and try for extension there. But since they stated on my wife denial that I am inadmissble, the chances are they are not going to do it. Can I try goingt to Mexico to do this.
What are your thaughts.
Am I illegal right now.
Thanks!
N
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walking_dude
10-18 03:12 PM
Here are the steps in setting up "Bill Pay" from your Bank account (online)
1) Check with your bank if "Bill Pay" is a free service, or not for your account. Some banks have conditions that must be met for e.g. Direct Deposit, Certain minimum balance, certain type of account or not. If you don't meet the criteria your bank may charge a service fees for using "Bill Pay"!
2) You might need to get "Bill Pay" activated on your online account. This might be possible for some by clicking on a "Service Agreement" screen. For others you might need to visit the Bank to get it activated.
3) Most banks that support "Repeating payments" allow you to "Add Payee" for future transactions. Provide IV address here and add "Immigration Voice" as a payee
Immigration Voice
PO Box 114
Dayton, NJ - 08810
Some Banks ask for Telephone Numbers too (mine did).
Ph : 850-391-4966
4) Click on link that says "Setup Repeating Payments" in the "Bill Pay" section (some might provide this option while setting up payments and not provide a separate section)
Select "Immigration Voice" as the payee. Enter the amount you would like to send to IV every month. Select the frequency as "Monthly" ( there may be other options such as daily, bimonthly, annually, quarterly etc. choose the one suitable for you.)
In the "message to payee" (or something similar) provide your E-mail id. This will be used by IV to inform you of check enchashment (thank you note). Will help you track the payment end-to-end.
6) Bank account (Bill pay section) will give you a list of all checks sent to IV (from the Bank). If any check hasn't been acknowledged, call IV and make sure it's been received!
HTH
1) Check with your bank if "Bill Pay" is a free service, or not for your account. Some banks have conditions that must be met for e.g. Direct Deposit, Certain minimum balance, certain type of account or not. If you don't meet the criteria your bank may charge a service fees for using "Bill Pay"!
2) You might need to get "Bill Pay" activated on your online account. This might be possible for some by clicking on a "Service Agreement" screen. For others you might need to visit the Bank to get it activated.
3) Most banks that support "Repeating payments" allow you to "Add Payee" for future transactions. Provide IV address here and add "Immigration Voice" as a payee
Immigration Voice
PO Box 114
Dayton, NJ - 08810
Some Banks ask for Telephone Numbers too (mine did).
Ph : 850-391-4966
4) Click on link that says "Setup Repeating Payments" in the "Bill Pay" section (some might provide this option while setting up payments and not provide a separate section)
Select "Immigration Voice" as the payee. Enter the amount you would like to send to IV every month. Select the frequency as "Monthly" ( there may be other options such as daily, bimonthly, annually, quarterly etc. choose the one suitable for you.)
In the "message to payee" (or something similar) provide your E-mail id. This will be used by IV to inform you of check enchashment (thank you note). Will help you track the payment end-to-end.
6) Bank account (Bill pay section) will give you a list of all checks sent to IV (from the Bank). If any check hasn't been acknowledged, call IV and make sure it's been received!
HTH
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kzinjuwadia
05-25 01:22 PM
After receiving GC do we have to report to SSN to change the SSN card but with same number. Existing card says work paper required.
Any anyone knows action item required after receiving GC then please post here?
Ppl do that; but I don't think it's a compulsory thing. Maybe it's good to remove one of the last traces of being non-immigrant in US ;)
Any anyone knows action item required after receiving GC then please post here?
Ppl do that; but I don't think it's a compulsory thing. Maybe it's good to remove one of the last traces of being non-immigrant in US ;)
gcformeornot
04-08 05:47 PM
1). I just mailed (paper filing) I-765 for renewal of EAD. Reason: Last year, because of a tiny/immaterial mistake (in e-filing) my EAD was delayed to close to 120 days..
2) As per filing instructions (feb,2010) I donot think you have any choice/option as to where to file.
Make your own choice, good luck.
are 2 locations based on states where you live.
Dallas and Phoenix.
If you live in:
Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Guam, or the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.
Mail your application to:
USCIS Phoenix Lockbox
For U.S. Postal Service (USPS) deliveries:
USCIS
PO Box 21281
Phoenix, AZ 85036
For Express mail and courier deliveries:
USCIS
Attn: AOS
1820 E. Skyharbor Circle S
Suite 100
Phoenix, AZ 85034
Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, U.S. Virgin Islands, or West Virginia
USCIS Dallas Lockbox
For U.S. Postal Service (USPS) Deliveries:
USCIS
PO Box 660867
Dallas, TX 75266
For Express mail and courier deliveries:
USCIS
Attn: AOS
2501 S. State Hwy. 121 Business
Suite 400
Lewisville, TX 75067
2) As per filing instructions (feb,2010) I donot think you have any choice/option as to where to file.
Make your own choice, good luck.
are 2 locations based on states where you live.
Dallas and Phoenix.
If you live in:
Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming, Guam, or the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands.
Mail your application to:
USCIS Phoenix Lockbox
For U.S. Postal Service (USPS) deliveries:
USCIS
PO Box 21281
Phoenix, AZ 85036
For Express mail and courier deliveries:
USCIS
Attn: AOS
1820 E. Skyharbor Circle S
Suite 100
Phoenix, AZ 85034
Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, U.S. Virgin Islands, or West Virginia
USCIS Dallas Lockbox
For U.S. Postal Service (USPS) Deliveries:
USCIS
PO Box 660867
Dallas, TX 75266
For Express mail and courier deliveries:
USCIS
Attn: AOS
2501 S. State Hwy. 121 Business
Suite 400
Lewisville, TX 75067
sdrblr
08-27 08:03 PM
Use FOIA form to get a copy of your I-140 approval notice. It is a slow process. Can take upto a year to get the document.
USCIS - Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts (FOIA) (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD )
Did not know that you can use FOIA for obtaining a document that does not belong to you (or you dont own it)
USCIS - Freedom of Information and Privacy Acts (FOIA) (http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextchannel=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a 1RCRD&vgnextoid=34139c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCRD )
Did not know that you can use FOIA for obtaining a document that does not belong to you (or you dont own it)
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